New shop

PagesHydroDipping

Finally got our new shop built today. Can't wait to start setting up the new equipment we have been buying and I definitely am excited to get the 10 foot tank up and running. Still a lot of work to do. Being in the business for the last 3 years I I can't wait to get a new set up going with better equipment. We've been working out of a 12x20 barn with a mostly homemade(hobby) set up since day one. Moving into a 24x40, usedb10nfoot tank, used 5hp kaiser compressor, got a real paint booth ordered (instead of our old 8x8 plywood room lol). Were gonna covert out 4.5 foot homemade tank into our new rinse tank.

MidOhioHydrographics

Congrats! Moving on up! Very cool. Post some pics and keep us updated!

PagesHydroDipping

Thanks man. I will post some pictures as we move through the process.

WileECoyote

It's a great feeling when you get to improve everything the way you want it, instead of what you can afford/have space for. Congratulations.

OverCoats

Congrats! We upgraded to a 10' tank about a month ago. We also converted our old 8' tank into a rinse tank. i'm a little unimpressed with the pump but i think i can fix that with a submersible that is A) quieter and has more flow. Automatic spray system is scheduled for install later this month

MidOhioHydrographics

OverCoats said:

Congrats! We upgraded to a 10' tank about a month ago. We also converted our old 8' tank into a rinse tank. i'm a little unimpressed with the pump but i think i can fix that with a submersible that is A) quieter and has more flow. Automatic spray system is scheduled for install later this month

Hey @OverCoats where did you get your spray system? We built ours custom, but I'm not sure if I want to do the same on the 2nd tank. Not cheap. Just curious mostly.

OverCoats

@MidOhioHydrographics I bit the bullet and ordered one from TWN (buy once, cry once). I was just admiring your video's of your new setup. I freaking love it!

WileECoyote

Man @OverCoats I had no idea you were stepping up like that, I knew a few years back you were considering hanging it all up. Awesome to hear!

OverCoats

WileECoyote said:

Man @OverCoats I had no idea you were stepping up like that, I knew a few years back you were considering hanging it all up. Awesome to hear!

@WileECoyote hey man. i haven't been on here very much lately. We have been quietly building and keeping our nose to the grindstone. We're busting at the seams in our shop but a larger facility is just going to have to wait for the time being. Ill post a video when we get the spray system going. Great to hear from you my brotha

WileECoyote

Glad to hear it @OverCoats

MidOhioHydrographics

Fantastic! Great to hear!!

MidOhioHydrographics

@OverCoats i will tell you... yes it’s expensive, until you can have a brand new employee dipping 50 parts every 5 minutes his first day on the job.... if the work is there, sometimes The cost of the tool/machine is cheaper than not having the right equipment... if that makes sense?

Our 2nd tank For the new shop is soon on its way from PA. I’ll be duplicating everything you see in the video at some point when it’s necessary.

OverCoats

MidOhioHydrographics said:

@OverCoats i will tell you... yes it’s expensive, until you can have a brand new employee dipping 50 parts every 5 minutes his first day on the job.... if the work is there, sometimes The cost of the tool/machine is cheaper than not having the right equipment... if that makes sense?

Our 2nd tank For the new shop is soon on its way from PA. I’ll be duplicating everything you see in the video at some point when it’s necessary.

I agree completely @MidOhioHydrographics. We're averaging a 20 min cycle time so that's why i'm investing in equipment upgrades. I was really hoping that the old dip tank to rinse tank conversion would work to save a little cash but, i just don't think its going to fit the bill. Where are you getting your conveyors?

MidOhioHydrographics

Original one was from Liquid Print, but this time I just went directly to where they get them from:

https://www.yung-hung.com/eng/products.php?func=p_detail&p_id=3&pc_parent=1

PagesHydroDipping

Just got the foam insulation done. They are gonna come back tomorrow and paint the foam white. One step at a time lol. Electrician should be out sat to start running wire. And then hvac should be out next week.

MidOhioHydrographics

Good move with the spray foam insulation! That place will be buttoned up tight!

PagesHydroDipping

What kind of hood or range are yall using over your dip tanks?

studebaker

What are your projected cost(s) for just the shell that you have built there?

WileECoyote

@PagesHydroDipping Where are you at in the country? You may have to worry about putting tempered air back in, if you are drawing out. A local HVAC place should be able to design you something to get the flow you need. I wouldn't look to a package system for something this specialized, especially if you could go from right behind the tank.

MidOhioHydrographics

Trevor is correct. We are required by code to make up air in our shop. This can either be automatic louvers on the wall that open when the booth is on, but then in winter we would freeze. So we have air make up furnaces that pump heated air back into the shop as it is exhausted by the booths. My 8700cfm booth required a direct fired gas 750,000btu unit. The one at my new shop is 1.2 million BTU, but will accommodate both booths.

MidOhioHydrographics

And it's not just code. If you want to exhaust air (fumes) from the shop, that air has to come from someplace. As sealed as that building is going to be, it will severely limit your exhaust volume. You'll understand when you turn on the booth and try to open the door! LOL

WileECoyote

You would rather pull in air through some filters than every crack and open door. Trust me, you will fight dirt in your paint FOREVER if you can't control where it comes from.

PagesHydroDipping

I'm in NC. So right now we are planning to put louvers over the window by the booth and one by the dip tank to pull in air.

MidOhioHydrographics

Good call! Just put some filters over the incoming air. Remember the size of that window is significantly smaller than the size of your booth opening. Pulling the cfm of the booth through that small opening may still restrict air flow. But it will definitely help! It will probably blow in pretty hard. All you can do is give it a try and see how it does! You can even duct something to come in right behind and overhead of the painter with filters. That will help keep the air clean as it gets filtered right before it goes across your part.

PagesHydroDipping

Were gonna give it a shot. We are gonna put on the window by the dip tank as well so hopefully between the 2 in will get enough air flow. Only time will tell. So back to the question at hand what kind of hood/range are yall using. @MidOhioHydrographics I know yours shop is a much bigger scale but just curious what everyone is using. In the old shop we used an attic fan to pull the air out. We cut a square out in the wall just above the tank and mounted the fan with louvers on the outside. With the new shop and tank I would like to leave walk space on the back side of the tank, that being said I would like to mount a hood of some sort right above the tank.

MidOhioHydrographics

This place has hoods of all shapes and sizes:
https://www.hoodmart.com/

WileECoyote

For small areas, and recirculating air through a carbon filter, we used these. https://www.sentryair.com/

MidOhioHydrographics

We have a paint booth and an exhaust system w/ activated carbon filters. I Wouldn't buy either one again. Remember that even humidity and other particulates in the air can "clog up" the activated carbon. Things like respirators and other carbon filters should be kept in plastic bags to mitigate this to some extent. The paint booth filters lasted about a week. And they aren't cheap to replace.

WileECoyote

I just gave it as information. We were told the way to tell if the filter was saturated, was to weigh it. I used these for a few weeks to remove solvent odors from a hand operation, and never noticed the weight changing on a postal scale to tenths of a gram...

MidOhioHydrographics

WileECoyote said:

I just gave it as information. We were told the way to tell if the filter was saturated, was to weigh it. I used these for a few weeks to remove solvent odors from a hand operation, and never noticed the weight changing on a postal scale to tenths of a gram...

We just start smelling the chemicals. LOL

PagesHydroDipping

@MidOhioHydrographics i was chatting online with someone from hood mart and the person told me that none of their hoods would work for removing solvent fumes. Do you remember what type of hood you purchased from them?