K2 brew

I used k2 bre for the first time today and I dipped it bust when rinsing it all came off how should k2 be sprayed 

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  • PagesHydroDippingPagesHydroDipping Posts: 665Member ✭✭✭
  • DeviousDipsDeviousDips Posts: 1,877Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    What paint? 
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    One hit wounder
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    I didnt get pictures but it peeled like a wet sticker 
  • smedlinsmedlin Posts: 2,153Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭
    angeldown said:

    how should k2 be sprayed 


    When it REALLY comes down to it.. K2 is just like any other activator.

    Every activator works a bit different..and yet.. every activator works exactly the same.

    (man, that sounded profound. That's margarita speech!)

    K2 is sprayed just like any other activator...meaning.. every film is sprayed a bit different.

    If it rinsed right off, it means you probably over activated it... which would have happened no matter what activator you used.

    Course, could be closed up paint also..
  • MidOhioHydrographicsMidOhioHydrographics Posts: 10,032Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    The "like a sticker" comment and the fact that K2 is a bit weaker compared to others lends me to say it is under activated. Make sure the film glasses out. May take another pass or some dwell time to allow it to work a bit.
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    This is it the next day
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,958Administrator El Jefe
    Gonna need some pictures my friend...
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    This is it the next day I let sit on water 60 hit it with a good hit of super brew and looks glasses out but still dont turn into a liquid stay rubbery 
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,958Administrator El Jefe
    Well if it was still rubbery?...It did not glass out...glassing out means it turned into a liquid...staying “rubbery” is not a liquid...

    Underactivated...
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    So maybe I miss understand flashing out when I spray the activator the pattern looks like it turns shiny smooth like water I am new at this and very driven to get this down right
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,958Administrator El Jefe
    Dip your finger into a corner of the pattern...you will be able to tell if it is liquid or not...

    In addition? Underactivation does not always mean lack of activator...it merely means that the film has not turned into a liquid...it could be the water is too cold...wrong activator for the film...not enough soak time...not enough dwell time and lastly not enough activator...

    Now when we say not enough activator? Is it your settings?...Air pressure too high? Gun too high? Fluid needle not far enough out? Fan setting messed up?

    Not enough material is making it to the film to turn it into a liquid so you have to figure out what it is...if in fact that is your exact problem...

    This is where you have to start playing detective and figure out what went wrong...
  • smedlinsmedlin Posts: 2,153Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dip your finger into a corner of the pattern...you will be able to tell if it is liquid or not...

    Randi was trying to dip some wood (film) the other day and having trouble.. it freaked her out when I did just THAT.. stuck my finger in the edge to see if it was ready

    (Although i worded it funny.. that's actually true. She was trying to use a wood film.. wood soaks that stuff up. So before I left her dip, I touched an "outside of the dip" area to test the film. That really is a good test..."
  • MidOhioHydrographicsMidOhioHydrographics Posts: 10,032Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Yep @smedlin Woodgrain is deceivingly thirsty. Lay it on.

    @angeldown it's under activated. Spray more and increase soak time a bit.
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    Yep @smedlin Woodgrain is deceivingly thirsty. Lay it on. @angeldown it's under activated. Spray more and increase soak time a bit.
    Can I dip in 96 Fahrenheit help the film out 
  • smedlinsmedlin Posts: 2,153Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's not the temp, or the hydrate time... the more ink on a film, the more juice it needs.
  • angeldownangeldown Posts: 18Member
    Ok sweet thanks 
  • SpinnerSpinner Posts: 235Member ✭✭✭
    So something happened to me the other day where the film rinsed off the ohw paint and left it looking very clean. Similar to the picture above. This was a new thing to me.
    I had noticed the part was pretty cold before I dipped it.... Then it all just fell off in the rinse. I dipped the next part -  same paint ,activator, etc, but warmed it up over the radiator heater first and it came out perfect.

    So, does the temperature of the part play a role with adhesion? Or could there be surface moisture on a cool part to prevent adhesion?
  • DeviousDipsDeviousDips Posts: 1,877Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know with painting its not necessarily the temp of your shop as much as the temp of your part. Of coarae you dont want your shop 30 degrees but if the part is steel or some type of metal it can be a big difference from where your shop is at. 
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,958Administrator El Jefe
    @Spinner You know? That could very well be...I have gotten a rash of emails and calls the last couple weeks...all almost exactly like your problem right there...pattern rinsing off the part for no apparent reason...and it has been really cold...so maybe?...
  • SpinnerSpinner Posts: 235Member ✭✭✭
    I discovered the "cold part issues" when spraying candies last year. The parts had blushed because of moisture on the surface.  
  • SpinnerSpinner Posts: 235Member ✭✭✭

    Here is a little rack over the space heater
  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 7,042Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Cold parts play havoc with paint because of the unpredictability of the solvent evaporation, and the condensation. The film sliding off could be because of the cold, but for 3 different reasons or more. The reason we try to finish under tropical conditions is so we can rule out some variables. Once you start working outside of them you just open yourself up to so many more it's impossible to troubleshoot.
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,958Administrator El Jefe
    @WileECoyote I hear that...out here the weather has been super ridiculous...for Cali anyways...Paint and Clear has been throwing a fit...
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