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  • Re: Control panels>> Electricion, VS Electrical Engineer My learning session Today

    If you have to ask HOW to build a panel or a tank? You should NOT be building a panel or a tank...end of story...
  • Re: New member 6/27

    My condolences on your loss...A parent should never outlive their child...but welcome to the forum and thank you for joining!...
  • Re: Has anyone made a mobile dipping setup?

    @willie14228 This is not a direct answer to just your comment...it is an answer in general to anyone reading this post...

    There are 2 options here...Option "A" would be a mobile set up for doing small shows and working flea markets...weekend stuff...not a bad option and personally I USE (keyword USE) to do 1 or 2 shows a year...mainly to hang out with guys in the off-road industry and drink beer...it was great for building relationships and we got a SMALL (keyword SMALL) amount or work out of the deal...but if you want to demonstrate the process? It could be a decent investment. A small tank is going to run around $3500...for a NICE stainless steel tank with a nice control panel...and double that for a nice stainless steel wash station, add on a table top paint station inside your $20,000 car hauler with your graphics ($2500 for a trailer wrap) on it. Not to mention a carbon filter set up to be legal or at least ethical towards the potential clients...A pattern table, compressor and small supply of paints and films and clear coat. Generator for electrical because the damn electrical feed pole is ALWAYS looking like a Christmas Tree disaster just waiting to catch fire and blow up...then your tables and walls to hang and display product...so I would figure in $30,000 to $40,000 just to do it right and put on the show...

    That's about what most guys would need just to open a shop...oh yea...and you have to get there EARLY in the morning or the night before to set up that whole thing...and then break it down after the show...and/or spend the night at the weekend show...

    Option "B"...A traveling show...Good point...and you would have to be at a point in your life where that was an attractive option...for me? No, neither my wife nor I like to travel AND work...and as enjoyable as that kind of setup might be? It's still working! Hell, I hate it when I have to stop every morning when I am on vacation with my wife and answer questions or send orders over to my drop ship companies. And I always get the stink eye from my wife like "We are SUPPOSED to be on VACATION!"...so the bottom line is most of us do not have an office staff to take care of stuff like that when we are gone...

    Not to mention how much a nice travel set up would cost...probably about TWICE what I have in my NON mobile workshop is what I would guess...$100,000 is easy for a nice coach and trailer set up...and that's still probably not enough to outfit it with a small tank, rinse station and table top booth...wiring, plumbing, airlines and a compressor...not to mention some kind of "glass wall" where they could see into your trailer so you could "wow" them with your creations...I see at LEAST $50,000 in the trailer and equipment alone...Now tac on a motor coach that would pull a 20' or 24' car hauler with all your equipment...and you have a sizable investment...and tac on how much you and the ball and chain need to live? Plus gas and fees for that traveling circus? You better be doing better than selling a cane a day or an hour even...oh yea...and you have to get there EARLY in the morning or the night before to set up that whole thing...and then break it down after the show...and/or spend the night at the weekend show...same as plan "A"...

    Don't get me wrong...if you are at a point in your life where you have the disposable income to afford that kind of life and you always wanted to travel the US and see what this planet is all about? Yea why not? I know there are groups of people out there that travel together and work all the large shows...they go from place to place every other week or once a month to these large shows and based upon the schedule? They are usually in a different state and a different show...some weekly...almost like a Carny if you will...Most of them love it...some hate it...

    So just some things to think about...and again these are just figures from MY point of view...your experience may vary...

    Personally, I would invest in my shop and spend that money on upgrades to make your shop more efficient and produce a better product...then network like a responsible business owner and the work will come to you...Most of you guys could get more work networking in places you already visit daily and don't even realize the market around you...WITHOUT leaving your chair and computer...I am talking TARGETED audiences and not some "Throw it against the wall and see what sticks" flea market audience...(and that's a HUGE hint)...

    Start using your brains guys...
  • Re: Thermochromic Paint

    Stick with the basics...the rest is "fluff" and not worth your time...
  • Re: Under or Over Activation

    Go back to the Harbor Freight gun and the Krylon...see if you can duplicate the process...might work...