K2 Forums Remote Training May 2017 **Edited with info AND Link**
K2Concepts
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OK Guys, I forgot to put in all the related information. Joe @MidOhioHydrographics has been kind enough to take up the slack but here is the info:
CLICK HERE FOR LINK TO DEPOSIT PAGE!!!
Cost:
$1750 for the first student of the company registering and $475 for each student after that. This fee includes any additional training whether it is a remote class or at our new Beaumont, CA location. You must put at least a deposit down or payment in full to lock in your spot for the class. Balances can be paid either beforehand or at the class. VISA, M/C, AMEX, PayPal are all accepted.
Training Dates:
May 18th, 19th, and 20th 2017
Possible Business Seminar: May 21, 2017
Start time:
9am, usually ending around 5:00 pm but this is flexible.
Address to the training facility is:
Mid-Ohio Hydrographics
298 Tower Dr.
Mansfield, OH 44906
You can ship training materials here in advance if you'd like (so you don't have to take them on a plane, etc.) just PM Joe @MidOhioHydrographics tracking info so he can expect it.
I believe last time, most everyone stayed at the Hampton Inn about 10 minutes from the shop. There are closer hotels, but there is more to do and more places to eat next to the Hampton. there is also a Fairfield Inn & Suites right next to the Hampton. These are only suggestions. There may be cheaper/closer places if you like.
Hampton Inn Mansfield/Ontario
1051 N. Lexington Springmill Rd,
Mansfield, Ohio, 44906,
(419) 747-5353
Fairfield Inn & Suites
1065 N Lexington-Springmill Rd,
Mansfield, OH 44906
(419) 747-2200
As Joe and everyone else that has attended the training has mentioned? It is a blast and everyone has a great time. I meet with each and every student during the class and concentrate my efforts on their questions and weaknesses. Please attend if you at all contemplating this trade as a business or even a "hobby" as you will save yourself much grief...and you will come away with a whole new outlook on the business aspects.
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
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Commitment List thus far:
(1) @looch
(2) @frankargenzy + 1 Person
(3) @jkucinic
(4) @Americanfieldarms + 1 Person
(5) @Forsi + 1 Person
(6) Willow Wood Prosthetics @jonshell
(7) @Bluewater
(8) @sengland1988 + 1 or 2 people
(9) @MiPilot
(10) @islanddipper
(11) @mielkewaygraphics
(12) @Ravenbones
(13) @Cowgirl
(14) @chad6713
(15) @k2motorsports + 1 Person
I would love to see as many sponsors here as possible! @Dinnetta_gobigbrain @kansashydro @liquidconcepts @pahydrographics @studebaker
I believe that SmartSolve wants to bring their super fancy high-dollar printer down and do an on-site demo. Also, I recently had dinner w Marc Devaud, a NanoChem rep and pro on many paint/clear lines, and he is going to really try and make it out also.
You won't get this kind of opportunity anyplace else. Promise you that! You will be exposed to so many products, paints, clears, activators... With no pressure! Everyone is friends, and nobody pushes you to purchase anything at all. Try them and make your own decision about what will work for you.
Jim hit the nail when he said you cannot be focused on completed projects. After speaking with a lot of other students I attended with, there were a lot of things which were missed or just not covered. So, you have to stay fluid while you are there as much as possible and not get bogged down on things.
Having said that, I would like to see each student get a check list to be sure all the teaching points are hit. In my classes, I have students check the boxes as we cover topics in class, then after field training, go over and check off what was covered in the field. This ensures all students are getting the information I want them to have. If they are unclear about something, they can be brought to the side or cover it quickly if possible. Some of the training goals are actually signed off by myself and other instructors as they are taught, so we know who taught that tactics or technique.
I can only speak for what I have witnessed myself, but it has been mentioned MANY times that after the first day the students come back with a glazed look on their faces... "It's like drinking from a fire hose". The information comes at you so fast that you have to get your head on straight or you are gonna miss stuff. You have to remember we have at BEST, 3 days to get you all the information that it took us YEARS to learn, and we are dealing with people starting with WIDELY different experience levels. We encourage people to take video, we take people back and show them multiple times, and we encourage questions constantly.
That being said... I have shown guys how to clear, walked them through it, watched them do it with guidance, and observed them on their own, knowing they still don't grasp it fully... while missing an entire day in the tank. We still have to try to give those guys their money's worth, but people are waiting on me for the next step that have a better shot at doing this. So sometimes we have to cut our losses. There is ALOT of good things that come out of the group dynamic, but if you learn better in a controlled, structured environment with a schedule... this is not for you. Instructors feel like firefighters, we are running from one group to the next. For ten or more hours a day. While trying to remain approachable. Possibly with a hangover (Depending if you were hanging with @onehitwonder till 3 am)
And in the end remember, the techniques to teach these classes are getting better with every one... all five that have ever existed. The "instructors" are simply guys that do this on their own, part time typically (except Jim). And teaching may be their 3-4 job (day job, dipper and possibly something else too) I guess it caught me off guard that there is any negative feedback from these remotes, maybe it just never filtered down to me.
With various groups involved with multiple activities, it is simple to miss out on some of them, teaching points or conversations that are had outside of their presence.
I have been an instructor for a long time for numerous topics, so I know a thing or two, but I am always open to student and co-instructor feedback and crtique. Anytime you can take something away from another instructor to use as your own, you can continue to improve your craft work.
it goes without saying there is a ton of information to be passes along within 3 days. So, why not have it organized in a way everyone is getting exposed to at least A-Z. Anything else is whip cream on top
Honestly, I think 3 breakout groups per day for 3 days had pretty much covered it all...I can start a check-list I guess but I think I do that in my brain by meeting with every student several times during the course to make sure there were no one slipping between the cracks...or at least that was my thinking...maybe I am off base...