New member need DIY dipping tips — K2Forums.com

Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

New member need DIY dipping tips

wunfstgsrwunfstgsr Posts: 7Member
Hello im a new member here and i have been starting to hydrodip stuff at home for fun. Not a professional at all just my bathtub basically as a tank, I have dipped a few car valve covers and they have come out pretty good. Id like to hear some tips on a few things I'm having trouble with thanks.

Whats a good water temp as far as Hot cold warm ect. i don't have a thermostat or water heater but id like to get a better idea on what temp the water should be around.

How do i prevent the film from distorting so fast? I use tape on the edges and let it sit on the water for 1 min then spray the activator and in 10 sec or so ill dip the item, but the film will distort and stretch, some films like the carbon fiber stretch and distort faster.

How much activator is needed? just a thin layer over the film?


heres some stuff i recently dipped,

[URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/IMAG0122_zps07c71891.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/IMAG0122_zps07c71891.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/IMAG0121_zpscf7b3c8e.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/IMAG0121_zpscf7b3c8e.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/image.jpg2_zpsqqeczkkk.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/image.jpg2_zpsqqeczkkk.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/GSR pics/IMG_20130927_221758_zps998466be.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/GSR pics/IMG_20130927_221758_zps998466be.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/lexus carbon fibwer lip/1464056_625772644152434_1319787309_n_zpsq4wnpeen.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/lexus carbon fibwer lip/1464056_625772644152434_1319787309_n_zpsq4wnpeen.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Comments

  • TsunamiTsunami Posts: 4,952Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭
    @wunfstgsr the pics dont work for me. You have a lot of questions and your friend will be the search bar in the upper right corner. Type in tank temperature and you will see how it works. Check out Jim's video section and you can get some great info on activators. This is not an easy trade even if some people make it look easy. It takes dedication and a lot of information gathering. Good Luck
  • jtagliajtaglia Posts: 2,275Member ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like @Tsunami said, "SEARCH BAR" You will get a lot of help & info here. But you do have to do some work yourself. Jim's videos are great, watch them along with others.
  • TsunamiTsunami Posts: 4,952Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭
    The activator looks good to me.
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 12,944Administrator El Jefe
    90 degrees, 60 seconds, 2 passes...rule of thumb...
  • wunfstgsrwunfstgsr Posts: 7Member

    90 degrees, 60 seconds, 2 passes...rule of thumb...

    Thanks again! sorry I'm new here but I'm on multiple car forums as i do allot of engine building and work on my own project car so i should have known to check for FAQ and searched first but i would like any feedback on my dips as well as any tips. I just dipped another valve cover in urban camo and it came out worse than the first one i did. The film didn't stick in some areas which leads me to believe i didn't use enough activator. Also the image was stretched to far when i went to dip it so the image was not solid and was spread after not looking even at all. So I'm going to wipe off the old film with denatured alcohol and try it again. This time i will use hotter water and spray the activator more even and not wait to long after the activator to dip.
  • TsunamiTsunami Posts: 4,952Member, Business Ninja ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just scuff and base coat. No need to remove it all. From the pics it looks like your technique is what you need to work on. The grip was going good and then the water beat you, Same with the engine cover in the valley section. If the film won't stretch in that deep crevice then blend some paint with the air brush at the bottom and soften it up as it hits the crisper colors of your film. Good luck
  • wunfstgsrwunfstgsr Posts: 7Member
    edited April 2015
    Tsunami said:
    Just scuff and base coat. No need to remove it all. From the pics it looks like your technique is what you need to work on. The grip was going good and then the water beat you, Same with the engine cover in the valley section. If the film won't stretch in that deep crevice then blend some paint with the air brush at the bottom and soften it up as it hits the crisper colors of your film. Good luck





    Thanks for your replie, when you say technique is there a certain approach to diffrent things when diping or is there basically one way or technique to use? 

    So i dipped the valve cover again and it came out a little better but i noticed among a few things there was small air bubbles under the film, so i i kind of touched it lightly with my finger to pop it how did this happen? Also when i was rinsing the vc with cold water in certain areas the film was pealing away in small spots and so ill have to touch it up which is no biggie im just not sure what caused that. I tried dipping it in a diffrent way compared to how i used to do it at a agle, i just diped it flat which helped keep the image straight and even overall its just on the sides the film really faded away and diddnt get on to well. But with this pattern and the base being white it kind of fades in and plays with the desighn so it doesnt look that horrible. Hopefully when i touch it up wih a small brush i can clean up the look overall then spray it with high temp gloss clear coat.


    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/Mobile Uploads/IMG_20150410_203554_zpsvmkxilwy.jpg


    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/Mobile Uploads/IMG_20150410_203608_zpsvmchr1rx.jpg


    http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/Mobile Uploads/IMG_20150410_203622_zpsd9yeiao6.jpg

  • wunfstgsrwunfstgsr Posts: 7Member
    Tsunami said:
    Just scuff and base coat. No need to remove it all. From the pics it looks like your technique is what you need to work on. The grip was going good and then the water beat you, Same with the engine cover in the valley section. If the film won't stretch in that deep crevice then blend some paint with the air brush at the bottom and soften it up as it hits the crisper colors of your film. Good luck





    Thanks for your replie, when you say technique is there a certain approach to diffrent things when diping or is there basically one way or technique to use? 

    So i dipped the valve cover again and it came out a little better but i noticed among a few things there was small air bubbles under the film, so i i kind of touched it lightly with my finger to pop it how did this happen? Also when i was rinsing the vc with cold water in certain areas the film was pealing away in small spots and so ill have to touch it up which is no biggie im just not sure what caused that. I tried dipping it in a diffrent way compared to how i used to do it at a agle, i just diped it flat which helped keep the image straight and even overall its just on the sides the film really faded away and diddnt get on to well. But with this pattern and the base being white it kind of fades in and plays with the desighn so it doesnt look that horrible. Hopefully when i touch it up wih a small brush i can clean up the look overall then spray it with high temp gloss clear coat.




    [URL=http://s301.photobucket.com/user/zbearkrimi/media/Mobile Uploads/IMG_20150410_203554_zpsvmkxilwy.jpg.html][IMG]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/zbearkrimi/Mobile Uploads/IMG_20150410_203554_zpsvmkxilwy.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
  • wunfstgsrwunfstgsr Posts: 7Member
    Well i cleared it with VHT high temp clear gloss and it turned yellow in a hour or so! not good at all, stupid clear coat. guess ill have to scruf it up and respray it white and dip it again all over. really pissed off, Going to use eastwood diamond clear coat this time i heard it doesnt yellow and can be sprayed over paint.
  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 6,012Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    @wunfstgsr I couldnt open the pic. But you got a pile of problems going on right now. Biggest issue you have is "You don't know what you don't know". You have to slow down, you dont even know how a part needs to enter the water, and you are all ready set to dump one version of clear for another. There are quite possibly 200 steps in between those two points that you need answers to before you need to worry about clear.

    Take some time and watch Jim's videos, search some problems in the forum, practice, then ask questions.
  • RDSHydroRDSHydro Posts: 1,672Member ✭✭✭✭
    @wunfstgsr , as @WileECoyote said, you have much to learn in technique before changing your products. Keep trying, you'll get there! I'll just comment on your specific questions below:

    "Thanks for your replie, when you say technique is there a certain approach to diffrent things when diping or is there basically one way or technique to use? (generally items go in the water at 45 degree angle, BUT, there are many variations to that where you will change your angle when entering the water.)

    So i dipped the valve cover again and it came out a little better but i noticed among a few things there was small air bubbles under the film, so i i kind of touched it lightly with my finger to pop it how did this happen?(it sounds like you trapped air by going in too flat.)
    Also when i was rinsing the vc with cold water in certain areas the film was pealing away (sounds like you over activated) in small spots and so ill have to touch it up which is no biggie im just not sure what caused that. I tried dipping it in a diffrent way compared to how i used to do it at a agle, i just diped it flat which helped keep the image straight and even overall its just on the sides the film really faded away (sounds like you need to slow your speed of dip) and diddnt get on to well. But with this pattern and the base being white it kind of fades in and plays with the desighn so it doesnt look that horrible. Hopefully when i touch it up wih a small brush i can clean up the look overall then spray it with high temp gloss clear coat.
Sign In or Register to comment.