where to dump used water after dipping

Im in california and from what I am seeing the water is okay to just dump since most activator just evaporates? i use k2 superbrew if that helps....

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  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 6,537Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Your local laws may vary, and I wouldn't even dare to guess what California would have to say about it.
  • SreynoldsSreynolds Posts: 1,419Member ✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't go getting anyone involved , just do away with it !
  • MidOhioHydrographicsMidOhioHydrographics Posts: 9,475Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Get it tested. I did a thread on this a while back. Feel free to read about my experience. To sum it up, my water tests came back that I am 100% ok to dump down the city sewer (where it goes through a treatment facility). Dumping into a septic or into rain runoff is a different animal, and more testing would be required.

    My Waste Water Experience: http://k2forums.com/discussion/comment/45677
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,444Administrator El Jefe
    @calidude135



    Here in California you will incur a HEFTY fine if anything you dump hits the gutter or rain basin...you are contaminating the rainwater and THAT is a HUGE "No No" in this state.

    To do it properly you will have to get a permit from the city or county...
    Which means you have to have a city or county license...
    Which means you will get inspected...
    Which means you will have to submit plans and have a water treatment specialist test and provide documentation that your wastewater actually is "okay to dump since most activator just evaporates"...
    Which means you will have to have your business within proper zoning where they will allow you to shoot paint and activator...
    Which means you will have to have a legal paint booth...
    Which means you will have to get a permit from the SCAQMD...
    Which means you will have to buy a legal paint booth with an EPA number registered to the paint booth...
    Which means you will have to get a license from the Fire Department...
    Which means you will have to be inspected...
    Which means you will have to have a legal fireproof storage unit for your paints and activators...
    Which means you will have to have a fire protection system in place for both the working area and your paint booth...
    Which means you will have to have one installed by a licensed fire protection contractor...

    Assuming you meet all those requirements you can then look forward to the accompanying yearly fees from the SCAQMD and the City/County where the business resides...as well as any fines or fees placed on water in general...especially in a drought year...

    Which really makes me shake my head when people tell me that this is a "Home Based Business"...
  • NotSoFastNotSoFast Posts: 3,288Member, Moderator El Moderator

    @calidude135



    Here in California you will incur a HEFTY fine if anything you dump hits the gutter or rain basin...you are contaminating the rainwater and THAT is a HUGE "No No" in this state.

    To do it properly you will have to get a permit from the city or county...
    Which means you have to have a city or county license...
    Which means you will get inspected...
    Which means you will have to submit plans and have a water treatment specialist test and provide documentation that your wastewater actually is "okay to dump since most activator just evaporates"...
    Which means you will have to have your business within proper zoning where they will allow you to shoot paint and activator...
    Which means you will have to have a legal paint booth...
    Which means you will have to get a permit from the SCAQMD...
    Which means you will have to buy a legal paint booth with an EPA number registered to the paint booth...
    Which means you will have to get a license from the Fire Department...
    Which means you will have to be inspected...
    Which means you will have to have a legal fireproof storage unit for your paints and activators...
    Which means you will have to have a fire protection system in place for both the working area and your paint booth...
    Which means you will have to have one installed by a licensed fire protection contractor...

    Assuming you meet all those requirements you can then look forward to the accompanying yearly fees from the SCAQMD and the City/County where the business resides...as well as any fines or fees placed on water in general...especially in a drought year...

    Which really makes me shake my head when people tell me that this is a "Home Based Business"...

    And in a short two years and a couple hundred thousand dollars, your home business can be up and running like a champ!
  • calidude135calidude135 Posts: 9Member
    so who should i contact for the water testing of activator infested water for CA?
  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 6,537Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    If you aren't already terrified of trying to start this, you would need to contact your city. But be warned... once you start down this path... its gonna get expensive, and that is not going to add to your product or process... its just permits and procedures.
  • calidude135calidude135 Posts: 9Member
    but im guessing jail time if i dont go down this path correct?
  • SreynoldsSreynolds Posts: 1,419Member ✭✭✭✭
    I doubt jail time is a factor but major fines would be..... If this is a hobby of yours, just get rid of the water and keep yourself off social media!
  • NotSoFastNotSoFast Posts: 3,288Member, Moderator El Moderator
    It'd probably be cheaper and faster to move out of California than to get the correct permits to do it legally there.
  • calidude135calidude135 Posts: 9Member
    is the waste water from the activator truly that bad though. im sure most evaporates correct?
  • calidude135calidude135 Posts: 9Member
    also i use k2 superbrew os there a way to get a MSDS for this to send to them?
  • NotSoFastNotSoFast Posts: 3,288Member, Moderator El Moderator
    Most does evaporate. In other states, it's ok to dump it down the storm drain at the curb. BUT, you need testing done and many inspections and permits for them to tell you this, even if it applies in your area.
  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 6,537Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator

    is the waste water from the activator truly that bad though. im sure most evaporates correct?

    No, its not, and most of it evaporates.... But California doesn't care. The problem you are experiencing is you are trying to figure crazy out with logic... that doesn't work. Welcome to how the rest of the country views California.

    also i use k2 superbrew os there a way to get a MSDS for this to send to them?

    Yes, you can get an MSDS. And trust me you are going to get an MSDS for every chemical that is going to touch that water, and so much more paperwork that you won't be able to keep track of it. All the while knowing that it's going to go down the drain, cause almost all of it evaporates.
  • NWHNWH Posts: 59Member ✭✭
    To help things filter better try using oil only pads under your normal filter in your tank it will not absorb water but will absorb oil or petroleum based solvents. you would be surprised how well it works to filter your tank.
  • K2ConceptsK2Concepts Posts: 13,444Administrator El Jefe

    also i use k2 superbrew os there a way to get a MSDS for this to send to them?

    Uhm...did you not read my reply? It wasn't for sarcasms sake that I typed all that...we are legal and that's what you have to go through if you want to be legal as well...it's not cheap nor is it easy here in California. If you are in Southern California then you will need to contact Babcock Labs and submit the required paperwork...but first you have to contact your Building and Safety department to see if they will even let you function where you are currently processing your work...if not? Well then you need to find out where in the city you CAN process and get a building there...and then start down that long road of submittals and required permits...

    Here is the contact information for Babcock Laboratories...
    Phuong Hunter

    G&G Environmental Compliance, Inc.

    5053 La Mart Dr., Suite 203

    Riverside, CA 92507

    P: (951) 683-3538|C: (951) 288-3322| F: (951) 683-3859
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