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BryanRohrBryanRohr Posts: 92Member ✭✭✭
I've done lots of wheels and I've actually never encountered this problem before. It's been about a year-and-a-half since I dipped flames on to these wheels and they have faded badly. They were top coated with MC series cerakote which I've always known to have a pretty good UV protection (maybe not after all?). Is it a problem in using cheap film, or the top coat, or was it a bad hit? How do I prevent this from ever happening again? I'm sure there's a better top coat product that perhaps would be better to use, I've just gotten so used to Cerakote which I am a fan of and have had good success with. Hell, I don't really know. Thax guys for any feedback.

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  • DeviousDipsDeviousDips Posts: 1,409Member ✭✭✭✭
    I'm not of fan of the MC series from cerakote at all. I believe nanochem clears are alot better. The film can also be some of the problem as well. But a clear with good UV protection will help I would think. 
  • MidOhioHydrographicsMidOhioHydrographics Posts: 8,937Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Film has a lot to do with it. The inks in the films have to be high quality UV resistant. The topcoat helps as well. Also not a fan of Cerakote clears. NanoChem or Prime Coatings Matte clears are better and less expensive.
  • loochlooch Posts: 1,570Member ✭✭✭✭
    Ive had the same problem with a film on vent shades faded in 6 months and that had 3 coats @onehitwonder gloss clear on it
  • TroubleTrouble Posts: 285Member ✭✭✭
    I was told by a paint guy that clear clear coat has little to no uv protection while amber colored clear has uv protection. 
  • SkinEDippinSkinEDippin Posts: 68Member ✭✭
    Yes. generally speaking the "clearer" the clear is the less UV protection it has, so you want a clear coat with a little yellow tint to it, This is what my paint rep has always said. BASF paints
  • TrayersSlayersTrayersSlayers Posts: 225Member ✭✭✭
    Film has a lot to do with it. The inks in the films have to be high quality UV resistant. The topcoat helps as well. Also not a fan of Cerakote clears. NanoChem or Prime Coatings Matte clears are better and less expensive.

    This right here
  • BryanRohrBryanRohr Posts: 92Member ✭✭✭
    I can understand that nonochem (and similar) clears are better as far as a clear coat goes visually, and I use them for almost everything. But when I'm doing stuff like wheels or firearms or anything that's going to be taking serious abuse, that's when I use cerakote, I will give them credit when we're talking abrasion, chemical and impact resistance, it's a great product. As far as their UV protection, although they claim it's pretty good, I'm seeing otherwise. So what's a good middle ground product? One that will take the abuse that a nonachem clear may not and hold up to extreme abuse like a Cerakote (or like) product will, only under the same UV conditions?. (P.S. I'm calling Cerakote to get what their excuse may be because I'm not impressed at the moment....I'll post their comments later)
  • BryanRohrBryanRohr Posts: 92Member ✭✭✭
    And as far as film goes.....obviously you get what you pay for (cough cough China cough), so my guess is that I should be calling Studebaker for a fresh print? (Calling you soon bud lol)
  • MidOhioHydrographicsMidOhioHydrographics Posts: 8,937Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    BryanRohr said:

    I can understand that nonochem (and similar) clears are better as far as a clear coat goes visually, and I use them for almost everything. But when I'm doing stuff like wheels or firearms or anything that's going to be taking serious abuse, that's when I use cerakote, I will give them credit when we're talking abrasion, chemical and impact resistance, it's a great product. As far as their UV protection, although they claim it's pretty good, I'm seeing otherwise. So what's a good middle ground product? One that will take the abuse that a nonachem clear may not and hold up to extreme abuse like a Cerakote (or like) product will, only under the same UV conditions?. (P.S. I'm calling Cerakote to get what their excuse may be because I'm not impressed at the moment....I'll post their comments later)

    I would put NanoChem or Prime Coatings up against Cerakote in any situation. I’ve spoke with very reputable companies that have performed side by side comparisons. I’m a certified Cerakote applicator. LOVE their H and Elite Series Coatings. We use them weekly. For the hydrographics side? Their air cure clears just don’t stand up against others. Some of their bake on clears are great. But the MC161 is not good. The test was performed by a reputable and very intelligent hydro company who was coating knives for a large OEM. Well known company. They coated samples in numerous clears and put them in a tumbler. The Cerakote wore through before quite a few others. I use NanoChem or Prime Coatings on all projects. Even those have certain products I use for certain applications. I will use Cerakote if I know there will be a tight fit and mil thickness matters. Again, per specific situations. Don’t limit yourself to a product without first doing your own testing. Cerakote has fantastic marketing. Again, I’m a certified applicator. But there are better products out there. Talk to some guys about GunKote. Has tested better also (I can’t speak personally for this), just doesn’t have the marketing behind it. That is specifically why I went and got certified by Cerakote. I want OEM Work and they want Cerakote.
  • DeviousDipsDeviousDips Posts: 1,409Member ✭✭✭✭
    I'm a fan of cerakote thats baked but their air dry just isnt what they were hoping for. Tamco paints make a high impact clear coat that is tough as any air dry clear I've seen. I'm a fan of Big Brain Graffiti Gloss for toughness as well for wheels or motorcycles. 
  • WileECoyoteWileECoyote Posts: 5,857Member, Moderator, Business Ninja El Moderator
    Prime Coatings supplies the clear for Harley Davidson's Tomahawk plant, and Harley's CVO and Dealer Direct painter, and that same clear (120 series XG080) is available to you. Just saying... few hundred motorcycles a day, designed to be in the sun.
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